M & M Professional Moving Complaints

M & M Professional Moving was starting to impress me, but recently all I am hearing is complaint after complaint. I have received two complaints on this company in less than 24 hours.

M & M Professional Moving is owned by Michael Denski. They are out of Warren Michigan. Michael was starting to do the right things with his company. They lad an official business name with their city. And they had DOT numbers…but it turns out that they are just completely hogwash and ruse to get more business. Typical actions from a moving scam company.

They are also continuing their affiliation with A Better Move a notorious moving company from the same area. Between these two companies I have received the most negative comments.

Here I am go to list some of the complaints that I have gotten on them:

Misty says:
August 19, 2010 at 4:37 pm (Edit)

Worst moving experience ever! We hired them to load our 16ft rental truck. We had hardly any furniture and a lot of boxes. Should be an easy and quick load, right? They took over five hours! We were supposed to have 3 guys working for us. One was the “boss” and he didn’t do anything except sit on his butt and talk on his cell phone. One was an old guy with an obvious bad back, and he was slower than molasses> I also caught him smoking in an upstairs bedroom during one of the numerous “breaks” he took. The other mover was a young guy who mostly stayed in the truck arranging the load and didn’t do much else. I also caught him taking numerous “breaks” and not doing anything.

Do not hire this company! They are a rip-off!

melissa says:
August 16, 2010 at 5:22 pm (Edit)

Michael Denski’s M&M Professional Moving is absolutely NOT a reputable company. Their drivers were 3 hours late to start with and then they overcharged me by an hour, which, shame on me, I did not notice until AFTER I had TIPPED them and they had left. The worst, though, is that my 1 year old table was scratched big time during the move, right on top. When I pointed it out to the guys, they said to make sure that I called the insurance number on the invoice form. There turned out to be no number on the form, so I called owner Michael Denski. He said he would send someone out to work on it for me, but the person never showed up and never even called. So, I called Michael Denski back and he said that they (I guess Denski’s crew….since supposedly they have been in business for 13 years – – yeah right!) would come and get my table to take it to have it worked on, but once again, no one showed up. I have left a message every day for about a month now and Michael has not returned any of my calls.

Also, I did not know that my elderly neighbor had spoken to one of the movers during my move and engaged them to help her daughter move that following week. I found out that they tacked on a bunch of fuel charges that she was never told about and they demanded a tip from her as well. I suppose they would have done that to me if I hadn’t have been stupid enough to give it in the first place.

DO NOT USE M&M PROFESSIONAL MOVING!!!! AND, IF YOU DO, EXPECT TO GET CHARGED MORE THAN AGREED TO AND DO NOT EXPECT ANYTHING FROM THEM AFTER PAYMENT IF ANY DAMAGE OCCURS. I PERSONALLY WILL BE WATCHING FOR THEM ON CRAIGSLIST AGAIN TO WARN PEOPLE.

Kelly says:
April 24, 2010 at 12:39 pm (Edit)

M M Moving is NOT a reputable company! I would advise everyonr [SIC] to BEWARE of them. Last Saturday they moved my family. There quote said nothing about fuel charges or insurance charges. I have a 55′ big screen that I gladly paid the extra insurance on only to have them drop it – the casing is cracked and the picture now has big black lines running through it. I called them several times before Michael finally agreed to send someone out to look at it – did he – NO! I have called several times every day but he is avoid my calls. This company is a total scam – stay away from them.

Another interesting tidbit about this company; most of the complaints that I get on this company come from women. Are they singling out the women because they think they are weaker or can be intimidated easier? You’ll have to be the judge on that one.

Just thought you should have the info.

Good luck with your move.

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Corey Is A Moving Scammer!

A little while ago I did an article on Craigslist Moving Scammers. This guy Corey was named. He keeps posting on Craigslist stating that he has the cheapest prices. And while that may be true you get what you pay for when it comes to moving.

Of course when I reported on Corey being a moving scammer he screamed blue murder. Yet it seems that my assessment has come true.

(You can click here to see my report on Corey.)

It seems yesterday (July 20, 2010) there was a report on Craigslist from a a very dissatisfied customer. Apparently, this guy scheduled Corey to do a move and Corey just never showed up, leaving the guy hanging and in trouble…

You can see the exact post below:

enclosed trailer mover is a no call no show! DO NOT USE (flint)

I spoke with corey who has the 14×7 enclosed trailer on here that advertises moving services. he was supposed to come and move my stuff the next day because i needed to be out by the following day. HE WAS A NO CALL NO SHOW. I TRIED CALLING HIM AND LEFT MESSAGES AND HE NEVER RETURNED MY CALL.

DO NOT CALL OR USE HIM. HE WILL MOST LIKELY LEAVE YOU HANGING LIKE HE DID WITH ME.

THANKFULLY ANOTHER SERVICE I FOUND ON HERE…ROCS DELIVERY, CAME THAT VERY NIGHT AT 8PM TO MOVE MY STUFF AND WAS VERY WELL PRICED.

IF YOU ARE MOVING, I WOULD DEF NOT RECOMMEND THE PERSON WITH THE ENCLOSED TRAILER…FOR YOUR REFERENCE HIS POSTING IS http://flint.craigslist.org/lbs/1850751500.html

click here for the actual ad on Craigslist…assuming it hasn’t been flagged.

First off, a 14 x 7 trailer is NOT a moving vehicle. You cannot load a lot of furniture and household possessions on one of those. And to move with a trailer such as this requires multiple trips. Corey knows this. This is why he charges so low in the first place.

He knows that he can charge low because the move will take longer than it would with a professional mover, but the cost will still be about the same. He also can charge low because he is NOT licensed and insured.

How do I know this, because Corey told this to me personally over the phone. He called me after I wrote about him on this website of him being a moving scammer. Do you know what he said to me? He said “So what if I have to make multiple trips. I make just as much or more by doing it this way as you.”

If that is not an admission of a moving scammer I don’t know what is.

So heed my words, but if you don’t, then at least listen to the guy above that was left hanging by this loser and stay away from Corey.

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Van Liners: Van Line Moving Companies

Recently It has come to my attention that I may have given the false impression that I am anti-van line. So let disspell that myth right here and now…I am not anti-van line.

I am anti-moving
scam.

How this came about was I invited by a local moving company, that also happens to be a Wheaton Van Line agent out of Kalamazoo, to meet with the owner of that moving company and tour his installation.

He was very polite and professional and he explained to me how many van liners work. He showed me his facilities and his trucks etc. I was very impressed to say the least. But more importantly he showed me where I had erred in my judgement of van liners.

So from this I just wanted to express three points about Van liners, no matter whom they may be:

1) Van Liners are Local Moving Companies:

Many van liners have agents do their selling and transporting for them. Similar to a franchise these agents go out and bid on moves, do advertising in their perspective regions etc. But those agents usually are moving company owners in their own right.

These agents operate their own local full service moving company like any other full service mover. They just also happen to be van line agents.

2) Van Liners can be cheaper for small long distance moves:

I had this one completely wrong. I said that for smaller moves that van liners were not not competitive in pricing. In fact, for small long distance moves they can actually far cheaper than a full service mover.

Of course you will give up some control and time using the Van Liners but you make it up in cost.

Now, what I say does hold up if you are moving long distance. But then you take in account point 1 above.

3) You still need to verify a Van Liner like any other mover:

No matter if you are looking at Full Service Movers, Van Liners or Craigslist movers you still need to do your research on the company.

Just because it is well established name in the moving business does not mean they are good moving company to use.

If you read the articles that I have on this website then you know I did a review of moving scams. Over 80% of those moving scams were committed by “licensed and insured” established moving companies; and 60% of those were committed by Van Line agents.

So while reported that Van Liners committed most of the moving scams I have to amend that and say most were committed by Van Line agents.

The moral of the story is: Do your research any mover you plan to use.

I hope this helps to clarify my views on Van Liners.

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Another Moving Scam Ad On Craigslist

So I am going through Craigslist again looking through the moving company ads and I run in to this one:

i have a full size truck and 18 ft flat bed trailer i will help you move i also have extra people if you dont truck and trailer fee is genraly 45 $ plus 10 – 20 $ hr per person depending on what we are doing if interested please call 517 712 7035 my name is walter

Seriously!?

What in the world is this guy thinking?

A full size pick up…Okay. And a 18 foot “flat bed” trailer. Wow, oh wow. First off, right now as I write this it is raining. So how is going to protect your possessions as they go down the road from the rain, because no matter how hard you try to amount of tarping is going to protect your stuff.

Now, don’t even get me started on the grammer and punctuation errors.

This is a moving scam…Plain and simple.

Notice the lack of time and effort put into the ad. This is a classic sign of the effort that will be used on your move. Walter is NOT a professional. He should never be used.

Walter may be a good guy. I have never met the gentleman, but he is not a professional mover. He is a moving scammer.

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Unlike some of my competitors, I actually do moving for people….I don’t just say I do.

I have put a lot of time and effort into this website to help you and to ensure that you know we are a legitimate moving company. It is hard to prove that to someone from a Yellowpages ad or Craigslist post…

So I thought that I would share with you a photo slide show of our moving customers and places we have been. I hope you enjoy it.

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Moving Scams Cry “Foul”.

As a service to you I put me neck on the chopping block to expose the moving scams and those that commit to do them. As a result I have a lot of moving scam “moving companies” screaming mad at me, and you know what? ….I love it!

I know that I am doing my jobs when the people that are defrauding you of your hard earned money are screaming foul.

I one “moving company” owner that is a complete coward. This person lives over a 100 miles away from me so thinks by calling incessantly telling me how he is “going to kick my ass” or informing me that he knows where I live scares me. Well first off it is very brave (said sarcastically) to tell me you are going to engage in physical violence when you are 100 miles away. Two; telling me you know where I live is not a threat. I clearly have already told the entire internet when I posted the address on my website and over the web. And three; seriously! You thinking harassing me over the phone, childish threats and empty promises really intimidate me? It only makes you look as unprofessional as I have already told everyone you are.

Another person claiming he is a mover is crying foul. This time it is from someone that I exposed as having a fraudulent moving company and illegal moving ads posted on the internet. So what does he do? he post on Craigslist this following post:

It does not matter if I use a 14×7 enclosed trailer to move a 3 bdr house. So what if it takes 2 or 3 trips. Dont target me because im out there tryin to make money. I am licensed, and I am a pro. I dont hide behind a fake website, tryin to piss people off. Watch who your talking about! You should take my name and ad off your web page.

No joke.

The person can’t spell. Horrible grammer and he admits that he has to make multiple trips when he does a move.

Do the math. A professional mover with the right equipment can do an average size house or apartment, from start to finish in about 3 hours. This person has to do it about 6 hours. I have checked what he charges for the moves he does and he charges $60/hr. So 6 hours times $60 equals $360.

I charge $95/hr. I will do the same move in 3 hours. So lets add this up: $95 times 3 hours equals $285.

So who really is cheaper? And who really is the professional here?

But this person has to make himself right by claiming I harming him. Maybe. But he is harming you and making my industry look bad. He is not a professional mover in any shape or form.

He claims to me that he is licensed and insured. He blatantly lies. Maybe he is licensed and insured for his vehicle but not as a mover. I know as I personally called him and I asked him for his USDOT and MPSC numbers. He didn’t even know what they were nor the fact he needed them.

So I know that I am doing good in this world when bad people and fraudulent “movers” are called out and exposed and they are upset for it.

So remember this! Moving scams will scream foul when exposed. They cannot stand the light of truth. They kick and scream and carry on like a spoiled child but in the end they remain the same as they have always been. Slick con artists and bullys.

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Moving Scams And Identity Theft

It is known that moving scam companies will hire criminals and sex offenders as I have already reported on. Now you can add to that mix identity theft.

I found this great article about a new threat to using moving scammers. Check it out below:

As if there weren’t enough worries about identity theft in this era high-tech, password/encrypted technology, we have to remind ourselves that identity theft still happens because of the hard technology and documents you expose to the world.

Consider the case of William Pollock, a young man from Texas who was looking to find a solid moving company to help move his family to Pennsylvania.

Pollock shopped around for a few different movers, as most of us would do, and when he wasn’t happy with their price quotes, he turned to Craigslist. There he found Moo-Ving.com, a company with a professional enough web site and, what’s more attractive, a far lower price quote.

Caveat emptor. As it turned out, the company took Pollock’s $5,000 in upfront cash and started making demands, telling him that they wouldn’t move his belongings unless he paid their fees. Eventually the company stored his belongings in a secret location, essentially holding his private property hostage.

This kind of theft isn’t as cut and dry as “routine” identity theft. You know not to give out your credit card number unless the person taking it has a good reputation and the interaction is secure. But what about private dealings with companies that appear to have good web sites?

List of Red Flags

Let’s consider some of the red flags Pollock could have considered:

* He found the moving companies on Craigslist rather than through more traditional methods.
* He didn’t do a lot of research into the reputation of the company.
* He paid upfront in cash.

All of these elements, put together with a company like Moo-Ving.com, spelled disaster.

How to Protect Yourself

How can you avoid this type of mistake? Simple: work with reputatable businesses when you entrust your belongings to someone else, and make sure that you pay after a job is well done, not before.

If you’ve become a victim of a company like this, you can turn to MoveRescue – an organization funded by some of the larger moving companies that provides legal help and assistance to consumers stuck in this situation.

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Moving Scams On Twitter

Moving scams are very prevalent on Craigslist.com and other classified ad websites. This is well known, but I have seen a growing trend with the moving scams that have me a little disturbed: Moving scams on Twitter and other social media websites.

With a free profile and the ease in which you can build a huge following on Twitter it is not surprising to see moving scams companies using the power and legitimacy of Twitter to further their “moving companies”.

Having said that, though, not all the moving companies on Twitter are moving scams. Quite the opposite.

One thing that I find with the moving scam companies is that they do tend to be internet phobic. Meaning they only flock to the internet websites that are easy to use. Harder to use websites like YouTube, Facebook, LinkedIn, Redgage etc you will be hard pressed to find moving scam companies.

So when using a moving companies that are found on Twitter make sure that you follow my advice on this website and do your research. Do this and you will avoid the moving scams on Twitter.

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More Craigslist Mover Scams Ads

Just today I came across this ad on Craigslist. It is indicative of the typical Craigslist mover scam ads that proliferate Craigslist and other similar websites.

Check it out:

I have a 14×7 enclosed trailer, dollies, blankets, and I can provide all labor for your move. I have up to a four man crew with dollies, for your truck loads/unloads. Either way I can save you money. Call for a reasonable quote. Corey (517)256-2549

Okay, lets say you are moving a 3 bedroom home. Tell me how many trips will it take and long will the move last with a pickup and 14′x7′ trailer? I don’t know, but I do know that it will take a long time.

This Corey may be a good person and very honorable, but he is far from a professional or even a legitimate mover. I’ll wager he is not even close to being insured let alone being licensed.

Remember, there are professional movers on Craigslist. But not all of them are professional movers.

So watch out for the craigslist mover scams by reading the ads.

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Choose Reputable Movers Over The Cheapest

Here is the story of a couple that was “scammed” by a moving company. What they fail to recognize is that they tried to scam the system and became a victim of their own greed.

Don’t get me wrong: I am not sticking up for the moving company at all. What they did is wholly wrong and I hate them for it; but lets be honest: This couple hired these movers for one reason only: Because they were cheap.

Cheap movers often tend to be the moving scammers. Why? Because that is how they lure you in. They quote a very low price, knowing that they cannot do the move for that amount, then when it comes time to deliver your possessions then that is when they hit with they a higher bill that you have to pay BEFORE you can get your furniture.

So here is this couples story:

Movers Beware
By Melissa Holnbach

Story Created: Nov 25, 2009

Story Updated: Nov 25, 2009
As if moving wasn’t hard enough, imagine having your bed, furniture and photo albums held for ransom. That’s exactly what happened to the Lockwood family moving from South Carolina to St. George, Utah.

Tips to keep yourself from being the next victim of a moving scam, whether you’re moving cross country or around the corner.

1. Make Sure your mover is licensed

2. Check the Better Business Bureau’s database to find out your movers reputation.

3. Also Check websites like movingscam.com that gives customer comments on whether they were satisfied.

4. Also check the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration ( FMCSA ) it helps regulate interstate moves.

5. And always check with the moving company before signing anything to make sure that no additional costs will be added, and if there might be, make sure there agreed upon so there’s no surprises. This also helps if you do get scammed when you go to court.

So don’t hire mover because they are cheap. Hire the the most affordable reputable movers.

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